Andalucia approves regulations of holiday apartments

[CSE]

this one maybe?
http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/boja/2011/255/1

updated with the following link.
http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/turismoc ... e-turismo/
This used to be in English too. Found it from an old post of ours on LMH from way back in 2009
viewtopic.php?t=10708&highlight=ley+del ... ndaluc%CDa

[pepsipuss]

this one maybe? N
http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/boja/2011/255/1

That one indeed. I lost the will to live long before I found anything to tell me how a rural property is defined or what the rules are.

[fincafern]

Pepsipuss,
Viviendas rurales do not require a/c to obtain licences.
I have ceiling and extra mobile fans if required, in every room.
The walls are so thick in my rural properties that it would extremely difficult to install a/c.
This is probably the same for many older rural properties which were built in this manner, to keep them cool in summer heat.
The authorities are aware of this I am sure.

[pepsipuss]

Thank you very much FF.

Now I only have to figure out how we are classified! Our house is only 30-odd years old but it is out in the campo. The golf course which is 1km away was built when n the house has already been there 20 years...

I think I need to go to the local Ayuntamiento but they probably won't have a clue!

[pepsipuss]

I just had a lightbulb moment

Could it be as simple as is the land defined as rustico or urbano?

[fincafern]

I am afraid I can't help you with applying because I employed my lawyer's office to do it for me - more expensive, I know. You could start by looking on line at the main province Junta site, I think you should find it there.
Strictly speaking, in our area, Malaga, there are only certain designated rural areas for casa and viviendas rurale. Parts of both Alhaurins and up near Granada are included, but I have seen legal rentals outside of these areas. I think you might find that if you are not in close proximity to any rural hotels, it will be advantageous for you. I am also close to a golf course but our houses have been there many years longer than it. I don't think age of houses is a problem, just the location.
You may need a Spanish speaker to help you with the forms, I tried unsuccessfully.

[costa-brava]

Viviendas rurales and casas rurales are covered by a law that has been in place for years (perhaps with a few amendments). They apply to villages with very small populations and the scheme was set up to ENCOURAGE accommodation in the rural areas.
The new laws coming into place now are for general bigger town and coastal private properties that were uncontrolled and the objective is to bring them under an umbrella of CONTROL.
There will be various differences between the two different classifications of property.
The main thing is to try and avoid mixing them up. (which isn't always easy as opinions fly back and fore)

[Casscat]

I just had a lightbulb moment

Could it be as simple as is the land defined as rustico or urbano?

I think that's pretty much it Pepsipuss.

[costa-brava]

LIGHTBULB MOMENTS! If land is classified as "rustico" it means that it is destined as agricultural or forestal. You therefore cannot build on it except under very stringent conditions although it often has old house from way back when. In the UK this would often be called green-belt.
If it is "urbano" it is classified as being in an urbanisation. Therefore provided the norms of population density, proximity to public roads and neighbours etc. are satisfied, you can build and adapt freely subject to building controls.
Rural and rustico do not mean the same thing. Rural means basically out in the sticks. For licencing purposes this is usually defined as "poblacion" with less that 2500 (or 3000) inhabitants.
Whether or not you need to have A/C has absolutely nothing to do with "rustico or urbano". These are planning categories not tourist categories.

[lorca]

Re Rural Properties - this maybe helpful

http://citizensadvice.org.es/wp-content ... ALUCIA.pdf

[Casscat]

For anyone in striking distance of Mijas: https://www.facebook.com/CostaWomen/pos ... 11?fref=nf

[CSE]

This is all about the new apartment rental decree for Andalusia.
http://citizensadvice.org.es/wp-content ... cted-1.pdf

[costa-brava]

That is a very concise appraisal of the new situation in English.
There is a small footnote that says the representatives of the Junta have indicated that they will not begin taking registrations till the 12th of May. That concurs with the interpretation of SH.